They don't like the English flag. They want the Union flag only.

UPDATE 28th September 2025 St George Cross flaggers are finding they don't get complaints from government agents if they put up a token Union Flag alongside St George's Cross flags. When flags are being put up under duress, the bottom right hand corner should be cut off as a sign that the flags are being put up under duress.

Nigel Farage and former Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon came to blows today during a heated debate over patriotic displays across England.

The row erupted over whether flying the St George’s Cross is a legitimate show of patriotism or a sign of divisive nationalism.

Speaking on GB News, Mr Hoon said: "What the Prime Minister was clearly trying to do is draw a distinction between using a flag in a proper way to support this country and using a flag to intimidate people.

"No one can object to the use of the Union Flag. I am British, that’s my flag, and I don’t believe anyone can challenge you for using it."

Geoff Hoon | Source: GB NEWS Geoff Hoon | Source: GB NEWS © GB News "What I’m less sure about is the Cross of Saint George. That is the English flag.

"When England play football or rugby, it’s perfectly fine for it to be displayed. But why are people flying the Cross of Saint George and claiming that it is somehow patriotic?

GB News host Nigel Farage hit back: "You’re obviously in the Emily Thornberry camp, looking down your nose at people who fly it."

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Outraged, Mr Hoon said: "On the contrary, I don’t look down my nose at anyone."

Nigel said: "Well, she did ten years ago, and it didn’t go down very well."

Mr Hoon fumed: "That isn’t fair. I don’t look down my nose at anyone. What I’m trying to make is a distinction between the flag of a British citizen, which is the Union Flag, and the Cross of Saint George, which is the flag of England."

Nigel bit back: "What’s wrong with Englishness?"

Mr Hoon said: "Nothing at all. What is wrong is English nationalism. We are a united country. We don’t believe it’s necessary to promote nationalism at the expense of being British.

ED - They are scared of English independence. That is what they fear. So give it to them. They deserve it.

"You were part of governments that allowed Scottish, Welsh, and Irish nationalism but we can’t be English nationalists. '' queried Farage.

HOON - We can be English and proud of being English, especially when England play football or rugby.

"But it’s not appropriate to put up the Cross of Saint George instead of the Union Flag, because the flag we owe our allegiance to is the Union Flag. We are British."

Nigel said: "I feel that I can be English and British. I see no contradiction."

ED - Not so Nigel. There is a major difference and you know it. England is our country. The UK is the illegitimate and illegal federal government which has given away English rights to world government bodies. But at least you have now started saying the word England, which you were previously avoiding, keeping to the British term. Britain is nothing just a land mass or island. England is our country. The Teds want independence from world government and the UK. ReformUK is simply the same old sell-out to Zionism, war and genocide. Wave those St George's Crosses.

© GB News These incidents occurred against the backdrop of Saturday's Unite the Kingdom demonstration in central London.